Here is what my screen looks like in Max. I've been using it almost every day for two years and I still only know what about 3/4 of those do-dads operate. Max is a really great program though, but really pricy, too. They really aught to do a Max lite with modeling only, as that is all I use it for. Anyway, notice the colors on the vertex that is selected, Max does a reall nice graduated fall-off on the selection, if you wish, I could have never done Supermodel vickie without that!