Oh, by the way folks, I have a pet peeve against web sites with frames. It's like looking at the world through a picture frame that is too small. And half the time the webmaster doesn't even bother to notice that things don't fit right in the frame, or that a visitor will be stuck inside the frame even if the visitor tries to go elsewhere. That's just my NOT So Humble Opinion. And I'm sticking to it. Ouch, Marlin hit me.