IR, The only difference between a fc2 and a pz2 - is the extension and thus the library it will work out of. Congrats on getting it to work. It also seems that you got the insight into its potential. You get to share the frustration, when you see wasteful methods used. gryffn, I missed the post about the empty morph problem. The problem had to be a mismatch between the indexes # and the actual number of deltas, because V2 has several empty dials from DAZ and these cause no problems. I also did not seriously comment on how a disappearing dial would be recieved. It should not matter. I could not find a way to hide the damn things to begin with. About face poses not working? It is a retorical device, suggesting a result opposite to that I believe to be true, so that I can get confirmation that it worked. The hiding trick is neat, I did not think of that.