Being able to get biceps and triceps on Vicky like the ones in the above picture would be a good start, from what I could see, Athletic Vicky does not come even close.

The women are Marla Duncan, Debbie Kruck, and Barbara Moran -- three fitness competitors from the early and mid 90's. Marla and Debbie were two of the pioneers of the fitness competitions. Barbara wandered back and forth from fitness and amateur bodybuilding (I think she is back to bodybuilding now).

And this is mild muscle when compared to female bodybuilders like Tommie Morreau, Michelle Maroldo, Marja Lehtonen, Paulina Talus, Juliette Bergman (current Ms Olympia), etc.

Vicki's arms were just neglected when the mesh was created. I did email DAZ about it and asked if it was possible to have the mesh modified to support more realistic biceps (and triceps). I was told that my email would be passed on to the chief modeler [on 9/27/01!!!], but I never did hear anything after that. I guess the modelers at DAZ find muscular legs acceptable, because they structured Vicki's legs to make bodybuilder type legs possible, but they must not find muscular arms on a woman acceptable. Just like most of the
rest of the world. Otherwise, Victoria 2 would have nice round biceps when the muscle morphs are used!

Just my two cents. :)