hmmm... the bweagle, which is not the same as the bleagle, goes into zygoteanimalseagle. the bleagle just goes in zygoteanimals. but i like to be organized, so i made an eagle directory. jaager: the cr2 can (and does) start in runtime, but somewhere, somehow poser has to tell windows what directory where it is poking around.... isn't there a 256 character limit on directories? or a 10-sub-directory depth limit? i dunno. well, results so far seem to indicate that the problems arent related. thanks guys!