Hey thanks Kristyn, Talos, and Wyrwulf.. I'm not sure who this Willow Character is but then I rarely watch TV or movies... Now yawl have me curious.. I'll need to check into that... As for your questions wyrwulf, I used Poser 4 for both of them... The face on the right wasn't antialias when I rendered so a I soften it with a disffuse Glow in Photoshop and added some noise to the skin.. I also added noise to the skin on the red head too to give the textures even more of a realistic glow.. The texture I used for the blonde was Anton Kisiel's Kassandra and the red head I used Tlaubach's brown eye girl... No morph targets at all... Nothing special and they both probably took me all together about 20 minutes.. Poser, Cosmo and the Photoshop. ... I have no idea what the Pink box looks like installed but I know the wigs are not high quality as the later versions.. Hmmm Maybe I'll install that sucker and check it out...