The problem with Painter is that I don't think Metacreations or Procreate are really fostering a community for Painter, or any of their products, really. How many tutorial sites are out there for Corel Photopaint? Not many. Most Painter tutorial sites are old (Painter 3 - 5) and Painter is NOT an out of the box immediate results sort of experience. The learning curve is steep. It took me awhile to figure out how to do clone painting on aything other than the original layer, in spite of a giant manual and several tutorial sites.