IMHO Painter 3d sucks rocks - don't bother with it. Sorry :( Use UVmapper to read off the existing mapping and save your template out. Then take than 8bit bmp in photoshop (or image editor of choice) to paint on it. Also, UVmapper can remap models - terribly useful for converting props and such for poser use (since poser does not have parametric mapping to unmapped objects. grrr) Lyrra