Penguinisto, You don't need a crowbar. You can use a glass cutter (used by glaziers and picture-framers), and it is much quieter. (Bring tape to cover your cut fingers, because the blood can be DNA-typed.) A much better method is to discover their favorite coffee shop (being in Utah, they probably don't go to a bar after work) and slide into the next booth and flap your ears. Guys brag. :: If you are shaking with nerves, they'll just attribute it to coffee jitters. There is always the option of raiding the dumpster, but those shredded pixels are so tiny that you might miss valuable clues in the dust. Carolly, typing with tongue firmly wedged in cheek