Yes - there is still a way to do pretty much everything if you use the mouse - which is how most Mac users are anyway, and I'm certainly not a Vue power user at this point. The main one is that nudge doesn't work. However, even in this case you can tweak the x,y,z in the numerics tab. It's just a pain! The other thing is that nearly all key combos that involve the mouse aren't documented properly in the quick reference card, manual and online help. This is because they intended to use Command-click to be equivalent to a right mouse button. But instead they used Ctrl-click - which reversed a bunch of commands around. The help does say Ctrl-click, but they didn't address the command reversal (for commands that utilized Ctrl already). They use the same help for PC/Mac - so the best thing they can do is split the Key reference into two separate pages. After figuring it out though, it's not too bad. There are some I couldn't get to work though. As an example, Ctrl+click an object within a group is supposed to select that object. This doesn't work, nor does Command-click. So instead you have to expand the group in World Browser and select the object that way. So there are some problems, but now that I've spent some time figuring things out - my previous comment on it being unusable was unwarranted. It's just not quite as "usable" as it should be. :-) - n8