OH BOY Sheep! Le'me at em...er...oh...its just you Darth. Of corse they rock, silly person. I was looking at some of your tests over the holidays and thinking how I might model those coils in Amapi. No one's done a style that I need for my next character (30's curly pompador, no bangs) and even though I dread doing it your studies got me to thinkin. And if you think that first thing tomorrow when I saddle up to my T1 at work that I wont be pulling all 3MB down for my library, then you be plumb crazy. jje