geep- I think I saved them as Photoshop files, then I actually used every other one. I converted them to GIFs in Photoshop 5, using the same color map (Gee, I remember maps well, when I used to paint in 256 colors the first step was making up the color map- if it wasn't in the map you couldn't use it!) I had a lot of trouble with the guy in Viceraid, I think the Poser map for him is ment to be used with colored lights, it is really pale. I think all the Poser 2 (and maybe 3) figures were like that. Anyway, I aught to mention when I was helping the guys in the old Pics forum on Compserve hammer out the GIF89a spec, the thought was that GIF couldn't be used for animation, but even back then, when I saw the provision for a timing element in the multiple image control block, I just couldn'ty help myself..... (brings back old memories!)