It's would be a good idea to use the height and width tags on the thumbnails so the browsers can tell how to lay the page out before the images have loaded. It will give the site that professional touch. As for credits, play safe and put them on. I doubt anyone would complain but I feel that the people who give us all this great free stuff to play with deserve a mention. Of course that does rely on you having a good indexing system on your HD so you know where everything came from! I use Image Ready 2.0 and it can compress a jpg to oblivion if you want to! What I aim for is a maximum size of 100k for a 640x480 image, it all depends on how the compression deteriorates the image, if too many artifacts appear I'll let the file size increase. Tony www.tabolton.cwc.net