Eric, Thanks for the great response. I said it before and I'll say it again, I love the DGC extensions. A big "thanks" to for opening up Carrara with your tools. Regarding Shader Ops . . I understand that it's not as flashy an extension as Anything Glows/Grooves, and its functionality not easily shown. I just wanted to get a little more info (and I got it). I know what you mean about Lightwave. I have a similar beef over 3DS MAX. I've used it, and I hate the interface. It's like creating art on a calculator. Personally, I see great possibilities in Carrara. 3DS MAX and other programs may be more powerful, but they really live and die by two things (IMHO): 1. The artist at the wheel. 2. Plug-Ins and extensions to the program. The same two points apply just as well to Carrara. I've seen some beutiful work done with C by some wonderful artists, and your extensions are a welcome addition to the paintbox. Keep up the good work. -Otis