Well it seems that learning C++ is similar to learning how to create your own custom poser figures. It's really very easy. But nobody can teach it very well. I've looked at lots of so called beginner books for C++. And they fail terribly. Too little or or too much info. I just need to get a basic grasp on the process. Then I'll be able to get into more difficult things as I go. But Grasping the basics is giving me a hard time. Mainly because nobody can really teach it well. There seems to be a real lack of good teaching skills in this country. Scott Ayers iamsba@aol.com