Actually, I've only spent $240 for Poser 4, and the school's licensing gives me Bryce 5 and 3DS Max if I want it (Took 'em up on Bryce, but I paid $40 for AC3D instead of 3DS, because AC3D only takes up 4MB of total HDD space and doesn't eat my printer port.) Luckily, the school even pays for the 3D bandwidth I use (including the serverpro one at $15/month), since it is part of the lab in class now. The vast majority of my personal stuff, including nearly all FPS modelling and env. tools - were downloaded as freebies, or in the case of UnrealEd, came as part of another package. I think I spent a total of $30 on all the FPS stuff since 1995 - and that was for Qoole ("Quake Object-Oriented Level Editor.") The only poser-related stuff I've bought so far is Nicole; My Renderosity purchases total $30.00 as of last night. Of course, we don't want to talk about hardware... or games. those are my main weaknesses :) /P