I could cheat and import 'em into my 3D modeller (AC3D) again(unlike 3DS Max, the import as their exact height)... :) IIRC, the P4 Guy was just shy of two metres (roughly 190-195cm) tall the last time I had him imported into AC3D. That would put Posette at around 185-190cm tall. Do I win, Do I win? (heh.) /P