thanks for the comments yall , will work on the suggestions.Some good comments, I appreciate that :) lighting techniques , is my next step with Vue and MikeJ , I dunno what happened, and Yikes! wasnt what I was thinking :) . I rendered 4 images of it and they all saved like that. A 1.2 Mb file size and it saved a 10k image,too bad it was just blotches , as I love that kind of compression ;) , Was so freaked I started doing what I could , ended up taking my backup environments folder and copying over the old one , and poof everything was right again. off to the drawing board..........