Indeed Sturk - if the school wasn't paying for my free stuff download bandwidth, I could have never opened the site I did this week. Lord knows the equipment is relatively cheap by comparison: One old e-machines P3-500 + a 30GB HDD + 1 copy of Linux Red Hat is all the dload site consists of right now, with a couple of $75 used Sparc5 servers and two more x86 boxes to be added within the next few weeks. OTOH, the bandwidth cost is horrendous. PG is lucky to be getting the prices they are for their lines; in some places (San Jose CA, ferinstance), prices could be double that in a heartbeat. /P