Is this the dreaded C Exception error? If so it's very sad to think that one of the most obvious and biggest problems hasn't been corrected.......this problem also occurs with the female boots and Hokasai's thigh and hip boots.....I was hoping this would be fixed.....BTW this same problem occurred with the first release of Poser 3 and was corrected with the P3 patch.....then broken again in Poser 4....Larry needs to know about this..... Krel