You still did some great work, though - it wasn't my intention to come off as someone who didn't appreciate it (when I get tired, I lose my English [not my first language] and can come off rather bitchy). After I had a glass of wine, relaxed a bit and read Misha's reply, it just clicked that I -was- bitchy. :P I'm looking at them again on another monitor now - that reflection job on the third pic you reposted, was that an unsharp mask or just levels? It looks incredibly cleaned up! As for turning the camera, I'll try that soonish (the days are getting longer, but it's still usually too dark to get a good picture at that spot when I'm off from work - maybe I'll try to leave early this week. :P ). And I agree that they do.. it's not the industrial part I don't like, it's the fact that the styles are just way too mixed. I might be nitpicking, though. I like a bit of coherence once in a while. grin (although, come to think of it, taking a picture of that one street might be interesting, with all those styles contrasting against each other.. hmm..) - darkpen