Wow - I didn't even know this top 20 setup existed until I saw this thread. Hmm. - I've seen the same flames from gamers over the CLQ ("Champions League for Quake"), which collects gaming stats from servers worldwide, and posts a ranking based on 'em, by game and MOD. It takes a lot of wasted time to rig a best score, something on the order of 20 hours or more in coordination with a lot of buddies (or an intentionally rigged server...) You should really see the flames over each week's stats there - heh. /P