Looks like you are suffering from the dreaded black verts (thats what I have been calling them, among other things) I bring a mesh into any program but poser and the mesh looks fine, no holes , etc. I bring it in to poser and sometimes some of the polys are black when rendered..... I have tried: -Stripping the normals from the .obj -Selecting the bad verts, making a new group, and reversing them -Retexturing with every mapper -Converting to .dfx and reconverting to .obj (which drops all the smoothing) -Correcting the normals in every program I have.... I am thinking this may be a poser bug? -Trav