On a technical note, it is nice to see a realistic male texture for once. My own body hair percentage is roughly equal to the 3rd guy from the left... hard to do a self-portrait (clothed, you pervs!) with the stock textures that are out now. (heh; if only my upper body muscle definition was roughly equal to that illustrated...) BTW - for the sake of realism, has anyone tried doing hirsute female textures (ie: a vast number of women in Europe that generally don't shave their 'pits, etc)? Just curious, /P