Adobe's stuff is pretty solid, anyway, that is to say it doesn't crash very much. I also find Bryce 4 pretty solid, Poser 4 fairly buggy and RDS 5 increadably buggy (what, me buy Carrara after this?). I guess all in all, Adobe picking up Metacreations products would be an improvement. Getting back to Photoshop, as much as I like it, I find it sort of unbelivable that when I'm working woth paths over a B & W texture map template I have to put a partly transparent white layer in so I can see the paths- I used to use a paint program 10 years ago (ColoRix) that was smart enough to always change the color of the cursor so you could see it against the background, why doesn't Photoshop do that?