nplus- I'd really like to try daguerreotype sometime. I've seen fantastic results. But isn't that the one using mecury vapor? I'm mad enough. Or the old platinum prints; at least some folks still make their own paper for this. BTW, I agree 100% with your post #11 above. Also tend to agree to about HC-110 for high speed emulsions, though haven't tried everything else. Acufine was always sort of mushy, D-76 OK. For low speed emulsions I went a stranger route entirely... slynky- Do-i-yourself color is like watching paint dry while wearing a blindfold. B&W rauks! [Did I spell that right?] rork- Is #6 full frame? I'd be pretty bummed out also. Grain and sharpness suck. Something has to be wrong.