Thanks Alpha!!! OK. I can't ask for more. It had occured to me that what I can do is post it myself if I can't escape work. Just while typing this message the machine acted crazy again. One thought I am considering is to take a break; finish my entry and post it then go back to work. The other option is to put a hammer to the machine!!! Either way I'll try to address the rotation problem if I decide to enter this as a contest entry. Bsteph