Chuck, take it from me, some companies come out with a product, then dump it. I saw that happen with Corel Dream3D for one example. And don't worry about egg on the face, unless you're eating an egg sandwich, then you might want to wipe it off, grin. Don't you hate it when you lose a connection? Sometimes I write a message in notepad, then copy and psste...Usually if I have reason to believe I might lose my connection. I remain interested in your views.. I don't blame you for not wanting to retype them. Ron