Geep, if I had altered the obj file and saved it as the same name, the rsr would have been a part of it. Thanks for looking for a simple mistake being at fault, would that for all of us, that this was the problem. If only it was that easy. The null loader starts to get a bit confusing to me with multiple figures - how many do you need? etc. That it needs special treatment if a scene is saved as a pz3 is another factor. My bias is for a single solution without constant maintance. I am willing to do more work up front if I can fire and forget the product. I hate maintance.