Victoria & Michael are the "next generation" Poser 4 figures for Poser. They are stand-alone figures, with better geometries than the original poser charcters. Be aware that the original Poser clothes do not fit Vic and Mike but there are plenty of items for free and for sale at this very site! You can buy them here http://www.daz3d.com/ Pricewise they are about $30 each for version 1.0 and $60 for version 2.0 (mike is dicounted at the moment though) Are they worth it? Absolutely! B)