Here Here Ron..... on both counts.. but especially what's for what.. and Pen about the liscensing... I agree completely. It is an issue when you're doing stuff, keeping track of who did what and whats commercial or not. Any products I'd put out would have to be free for wahtever simply because of that. I don't want someone reselling my model but I also don't care if someone uses a peice of clothing on a picture they sell somewhere. Right now I'm writing and illustrating a game manual that will be over 200 pages most likely. I plan on just letting it be free, but the fact is also my options are so limited because I don't know where I got everything I have. :Grins: When I first got poser I downloaded every freebie I could find and my directories are more convoluted then I like to imagine. I know what I've bought (thank god for Daz and Renderosity remembering this stuff on their account pages) but the mere idea of sorting out everything else.... shudder. Ah well... free is free.......... :grins: Anz