Well, there was slightly more to the Thorne story than "just a bunch of moral majority types", but we ll let that one go, since it has no relevance here. I only have one complaint about the freebies and it has nothing to do with the system set up here or the people who provide them. It's the service providers that make our artisians set up three or four pages just for ads to get to the freebie. Now Im pretty tolerant of having to go through a few pages to obtain an especially cool model (and Ive managed a pretty good instinct when it comes to navigating the Japanese sites as well -- practice, practice, practice), but when its something that comes up because the service provider is sticking it in, I tend to get just a tad testy. I know that advertising is becoming more and more of a fact of life on the web these days, and I get a real laugh out of places (like the now gone Cyber Sites) that restrict its members usage on the personal pages while spending bandwidth on animated banners that take more than a dogs lifetime to get in place. Frankly, if I have to wade through four or five pages of ISP ads, then the freebie isnt worth my time, sorry. Again, this isnt a slam against the modellers or texture artists here.