Steve, I have also installed final 05 and it works fine. Also the plants :-). The two "bugs" I found until now is that there are no preview windows in the animation timeline window. Also mixing more then 2 materials don't work (see image). When rendering a selected area in final, broadcast or ultra to screen and then stop it by ESC, I get "If you stop rendering now, you won't be able to resume this render later. Are you sure you want to stop rendering ?"(and the YES, NO buttons). Guitta