Wait a sec. So If I understand correctly JW. You are saying that a photo of any object or any object covered by a photo itself counts as a photo. However, that can't be correct after all if I take a Poser creature and texture it with a photo it is still a poser creature. It is not a picture additionally I would think a picture of a poser creature is still a poser creature. After all the source image is poser as is the underlying basis. To take a poser creature and create a photo would mean that not only whould the poser creature need to be fully textured but there would probably need to be a second laver of photography. IE. It I take a car and cover it with cake is it still a car. Yes. Is it now full a cake. Perhaps not. BUT if I drive my cake car to a birthday and cover it with candles is it a car. No. It's now a cake!!! Bsteph