Yeah, that's what I would say too. When I first did it, I went through the revolving door download thing several times before I noticed that little arrow at the bottom of the page right before the actual download. Well, as I said, Vue 4.05 is not importing .3ds or .lwo. And yes,I downloaded the full update, not the incremental. What seems like a slower speed by me could not necesssarily be true, but I just said it seems that way. I don't really use the .OBJ format much anymore except in Poser. Anyway, knowing full well I was taking a big chance, I tried to revert to 4.03 using an old Back folder contents. Now I can't run Vue at all, and the 4.05 update attempt fails when I try. So it looks like I'll be reinstalling....