I aught to mention the outcome of the "thrird leg" experment. The goal was to produce a skirt that could be sat in, not a special version. I couldn't get it to work, but I dod use the third leg in a seperate, sit down dress, so it wasn't a total loss. This one is manually operated from the hips down, with extra morphs in the hip, but the 3rd leg does most of the work. Anyway, as you can see, with careful adjustment Vickie can even sit cross leg in it, nothing is pokeing out anywhere. The regular and the sitdown one share the same object file too. This one is in Vickies new cloting pack, which hopefully will be up at DAZ this weekend. I'm probably going to do a free upgrade for the dress in SMV's new package too, they aren't that hard once I figured it out. The last sit down I did had the mesh pre-formed, this way is much better.