Just as a moot point, the reason for the "jungle" pic above is to point out how it can be a "computerized jungle" out there for good old snappy, hehe ;-) Um...well, you just put me onto another question now, which is, why do you think cartoons are not art?? I have seen it suggested many times in many places of late, even HERE at Renderosity, that photography is not really an art, much like you say about cartoons. One person recently asked why we even have a photography gallery here. I thought that was very benign. I don't agree on both counts, I happen to feel both are art forms only differing medium types, and very signifigant in their own rights. But I won't elaborate, I am curious how others feel instead of stealing this with my own opinions ;-)