As one of the offending merchants... well, i hope not so offensive... i'll say that the debate about WIP products in the forums, new releases, and so on is raging amongst the merchants, too. Regardless, i do want to share the creative excitement in making something new and nifty; if it's for sale or not, i for one don't care--it's all good, to me. (You know that the Clios, the awards for broadcast advertising, are given to some of the most creative work on the air!) Being able to share new works in the forums and galleries, commercial or not, is my big reward in being in the community. And thanks, Ron, your reply is exactly why i would post a new commercial work in the forum: so i can talk more about it with the people who might like to have it, and show them more than the 3 pics we're allowed in the marketplace can do. As for the galleries--go figure! Poser gallery images are loaded up so fast, that unless you upload at a time of day when people are looking, one's pics will barely be seen. Even then, they get lost in the sauce. If you share a couple of times in the forum, then people will know if they want to look for you in the gallery. Otherwise, you have to make thumbnails that will really hook folks--or not, as peejay said. Naked ladies get WAY more views than anything else. You can lose your mind trying to woo the public, so don't try! Just pursue excellence, and keep showing. Come to think of it, would you please post something you've done recently in this thread, so we can see what we're missing? --Nan