I'd like to add my humble thanks to the pile as well. Although I haven't been here long (Mid-to-late November, I think), and haven't played with Poser at anytime before early November, I have finally found a cure that does two things for me: 1) I was getting all burned-out on FPS gaming and the gaming scene. I had played online like a rabid dog since 1997. I realize that nearly five years of my life went down the drain trying for new and improved ways of meeting folks on a network, then killing them as quickly as possible. Even though most folks I know in gaming are great folks, it's become all negative and destructive nowadays, and I don't just mean in-game, either... something I really don't appreciate. I still play a little now and then, but nowhere near the approximate 14hrs+ each week that I used to. 2) I've gotten back in touch with the artistic side of my engineering endeavors. Sicne I was a kid, I'd always try and build wild things in drawings and artwork... and since high school, I'd never really found a way to bring back the joy I had once found in doing so. I lost the drawings I had treasured so much while living in Des Moines, Iowa during the 1993 floods. Among all my travels and wanderlust in life (I'm 32 now, so I probably ain't done travelling yet), the drawings collection was a constant with me, and I still miss them. I tried to bring some of that engineering art back within the FPS gaming community, but theoretical and data limitations were a constant shackle, and most folks complained of excess eye-candy getting in the way of their slaughters. Then I found Poser, and R'osity. Here, not only have I found programs that finally sets the potential free, but a group of folks who fulfill my own joys by putting them to good use. I used to look at the drawings on Digital Blasphemy, Dead Dreamer, etc, and sayto myself "damn - that's what I want to do! I want to make images like that!" Although I rarely release any of my renders to the public (mostly I've done it to show off new items I'm building), I've gotten proficient enough with making them that I may indeed start putting together and releasing renders just for fun. My life has become more positive as a result... though I'm spending mroe time than ever at my computers, which garners complaints from the missus (grin), even she admits that things have changed for the better :) And I have you guys to thank for it. /P