I agree with you all - the poser cat is a sad creature indeed :) But. There are many morphs out there that help somewhat, and with a few more it may be possible to make it less ugly. These shiny eyes fix one of my biggest problems with it - most of the rest will involved morphing, bodypart rescaling and perhaps joint parameter tweaking. Remember - everyone said the poser horse was a loss too - but just look at what Daio and Bloodsong have done with it :) Lyrra