Please post, Gwydion, I'd love to see your work. I'm a newbie-- well, I had Poser just before Vickie came out and tried for a week and I was so awful I gave up. Trying to import into Bryce-- eeeew! Now I've been doing it again for a week-- so I guess I have 2 weeks experience all told. I couldn't have even tried to do anything without this forum. I read every message for two weeks while CL was sending me my replacement disks, learning about textures and eyebrows and conforming stuff. It made me feel ready. And thank you so much Ron for actually looking at and commenting on my gallery posts. It meant a lot. I love making these pictures. Believe me, I am incrediably glad to be here!