Hmm...... hate doing that.... but I guess if they are far enough away and I create a mass shadow for all of them.... man... that will take FOREVER :grins: "Okay.. I can render about 6 men at a time... how many do we need? 2000... okay... it takes... hmm...." Maybe after I render a few I can just keep copying and pasting... then throw a filter over it to cover it up :grins: Anz