Good luck to everyone! I'm going to play along and do my own photorealistic "Coffe & Donut" image, so I hope you find it as challenging as I do. In choosing this topic, I wanted to see what Carrara users can do to rival Lightwave, 3DS MAX and Maya in terms of realism. It may sound sound simple . . but it's a quality that's not easy to achieve in 3D (no matter what software you use). If you want a good example of what I had in mind, go check out litst's "This Is Real Cheese!": http://www.chez.com/litst/eng/images_gal/gal13.htm Good luck! -Otis