No f'ing way! At least HALF of those who sniff about their high-end 3-D modelling software as being 'superior', prolly swiped a copy off of Morpheus in the first place! Unless you actually work for a high-end gfx shop, and they have a site license, you're prolly ripping it off, unless you're going to cough up as proof a scanned image of a reciept showing you bought it to the tune of thousands upon thousands of dollars! I find it funnier than Hell, personally... I followed the link of this "nogbogfrog" guy, and on his personal page, he's rhapsodizing about "KDE" this and "Linux" that... bragging on the OSS programmers he's just met. Now - compare this to the fact that Linux (as of right now) is still EXTREMELY limited in 3D modelling software for under, oh, the price of a brand-new Jeep Wrangler or so... You'd think a guy like that would actually learn something from it all... Momcat - when you see crap like that, consider the source, then ask him where he got the license for his $18,000 Maya package on Linux (no 3DS Max in *ix yet)... ;) /P PS, on the 3D artwork front: I'm about to get signed on as part of the school's site license for Inventor... woo-hoo! (still stuck w/ Windows to use it ,tho'... )