I have a friend who thinks computer graphics aren't real art, and I've also gotten comments from other friends that the computer is the artist and not me. They think that all you do is open Poser press a button and poof! Instant art, no thought or creativity involved. I'd love to sit them down in front of Poser or Vue 4 and ask them to make me a picture some time. Ha would they have a wake up call! It's like saying that owning Microsoft Word turns you into Steven King or something--hey maybe "Clippy" the Paper Clip really wrote Pet Cemetary too! No one seems to question that photography is an "art" and yet the photographer doesn't build the people or even most of the stuff in a photograph. I'm sure that there people out there who own the big names in graphics software and are turning out utter crap, having an expensive tool doesn't give you artistic vision anymore than owning paints, canvas, pastels and chaulks don't make you Leonardo DaVinci. I also think people would be utterly amazed about how much art they look at is generated on computers and looks like it was done with traditional media. Oh well, we have to educate the poor slobs. Render on!