I'm a "real" artist, meaning that I paint, sculpt, draw, AND POSE! Poser is one of the greatest tools of all time. Someone asked if this was really art in another forum. Well, this from a "real artist": YES. Period. Yes. I still draw and sculpt, and still love 3D rendering in Poser and Bryce. Anyone who says it is not art, or looks down upon it because it is Poser and not Character Studio are either morons or not informed. Poser can acheive photo-realism to Van Gogh esque portraits via the WONDERFUL Sketch designer (one of the best features). Anyway, it takes much skill to acheive a certain plateau, shared by folks like Syyd Raven, and others. I still have tons to learn, and much room to make progress in . . . but I'm having fun, praise God, because I love art. Ben http://www.MessianicArt.com/