The very truth of the matter is that you've proven that you don't care to have an open discussion. You ignore the facts before you and persist in your attitude, yet deny it at the same time. You come up against someone with a valid point who resists your attitude, then you create rules and expectations you are unwilling to follow yourself. There is nothing to be accomplished under these conditions. Except your misguided righteous indignation. Now go back to flattering yourselves, and feeling oh so much more important than those who receive your gifts. Ron