Agent Smith , you tell exact what I mean, you must look on the website and see some art that is just nothing, but some people said that Poser4 is not 3D only 2D, but I tell you nothing is 3D,do you was thinking about that images that are rendered I mean here still images are not more 3D only 2D all, a 3d is only if you can see the scene from 3 dimension on one time and renders have only 2 dimension of are they from Max or from Poser they are 2D, if they are 2d then if you use PhotoShop or other aps then it don't change anything, if you post a pz3 scene then you can tell it is 3D, much people don't know about. How all say art is what you do and not what you use, and don't worry about other websites that don't have money to pay the space to put the work of the artist and ask for help, is that 3D Elite? that are sux nothing more. THANKS AGAIN AND HAVE ALL GREAT WEEKEND!!! TIME BACK TO POSER:-) LOL