Tommy, believe me I understand what you are saying. However, I have a wealth of "ethnic characters," that I will get off my duff and finally use. My problem is how to handle the "facial expressions." I look at all those dials, and don't even see the labels I am looking for. I can't remember the exact descriptions, but it came up once. So I'm looking for some good "facial pose" libraries to help me out of this confusion. Ron