Clay you are right the patch addressed "crashes" which never happened to me so the patch is useless to me. I was hoping that the patch would address quality problems. One the the BIG problems for me, and I would think anybody who wanted realist looking trees, was the goofy curve on both sides of tree trunks. All trees from tree lab have it if you creat a tree and move the camera in close to the trunk, you can see it. I feel Bryce has such potential, but it's various owners do not want to develop it. Oh well maybe the next owners will!